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Jerry
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Posted - 06/05/2018 :  07:08:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The two velomobiles in the TABR are doing well. Marcel Gerber from France is in 16th place and Dave Lewis who did 647 miles at Sebring is in 22nd place. They are doing well for being in the mountains. The results can be seen here https://transambikerace.com .

Johnsfwdbent
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USA
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Posted - 06/05/2018 :  20:11:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jerry thanks for posting the link!
Looks Like Dave is in 17th place now!,,
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Jerry
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Posted - 06/05/2018 :  20:41:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are welcome John. Marcel Graber from France is in 9th in his velo and Dave is hanging around 17th-18th place. Dave has been sleeping a little more than the rest. I expect Dave to catch up in the next few days and be in the top 5 or so.
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Toecutter
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Posted - 06/06/2018 :  04:04:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave is a monster for being able to do more than 600 miles in a day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGpUPNYcLXM

The most I've ever done so far is roughly 110 miles over a 10 hour period(including breaks, meals, ect).

Once the downhill and flat sections are arrived at, I expect the velos will dominate the race or come close to it. As they are, they're performing well climbing up mountains in spite of their weight penalty.

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Jerry
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Posted - 06/07/2018 :  13:40:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcel Graber is 4th at 1,292 miles and Dave Lewis in now 11th with 1,119 miles. Looks like the two velos might have a chance for both to be in top 5 by MO.
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Jerry
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Posted - 06/08/2018 :  06:49:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcel in 5th and Dave is in 10th! Way to go velos.
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Jerry
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Posted - 06/08/2018 :  07:14:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcel back into 4th with 1,430 miles and Dave is 10th with 1,260 miles. It will not be long until they reach the flat plains of eastern CO and KS. Hopefully they will be in 1st and 2nd place by then!
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Toecutter
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Posted - 06/08/2018 :  09:58:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Should that happen, it will likely give these machines mainstream notoriety. They may even become disqualified from future races or have a whole new class created just for them, harking back to the time that the UCI banned recumbents.

Marcel is now in 3rd, only behind 1st place by 70 miles, Dave in 10th behind 1st place by 270 miles. The gap is certainly narrowing and they haven't even gotten to the flat sections yet.

Edited by - Toecutter on 06/08/2018 10:00:46
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Jerry
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Posted - 06/08/2018 :  12:23:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcel 3rd 1,534 miles and Dave 9th with 1,351 miles. Go guys. Dave has made up close to 60 miles today.
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alevand
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Posted - 06/09/2018 :  07:48:41  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Jerry.

Marcel Gerber in 2nd place, just overtaking Kraig Pauli a few minutes ago, 20 miles behind the leader at 1742 miles. Dave Lewis is in 7th 143 miles behind the leader at 1610 miles. They should take off on flat down sloping grade in eastern Co sometime tomorrow...Unless its too hot, 100F highs in Kansas Sunday, cooling off to 90 Tuesday.

http://trackleaders.com/transam18

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Edited by - alevand on 06/09/2018 08:11:29
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Toecutter
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Posted - 06/09/2018 :  11:15:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcel and Dave are now in 1st and 6th place, respectively.

Dave is only behind by about 170 miles.

It is likely that the two will eventually have both 1st and 2nd places before the race is over. They just have to be sure to build up as much distance as possible from the other contestants before climbing anymore large sections of upward inclines and hold onto their lead.

Once they're through Colorado, their biggest uphill gradients to climb are in Appalachia, which are much lesser climbs than the Rocky Mountains. The race should only be easier for the velo riders from the point they finish Colorado and forward.

Edited by - Toecutter on 06/09/2018 11:20:55
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alevand
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Posted - 06/09/2018 :  13:30:06  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Marcel is close to the Continental divide at Hoosier pass!

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Jerry
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Posted - 06/09/2018 :  13:36:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually the toughest climbs are in Missouri. Steep little buggers for over 200 miles. Just far enough apart you can't get momentum. Anyone who has ridden this route, 99% will say MO is the toughest. Here is one of my old training rides that I just re-mapped on MapMyRide http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/2099088775 . Take this ride to get the gist of what the TABR is like.

1,836 miles for Marcel and 1,675 for Dave. Those two are bad ass! Wow! I don't know Marcel, but he took the time to give a short interview at a store yesterday and explained what it is like in a hot velo. Dave is a very unassuming and nice guy. How can anyone not stand up and cheer for two guys like them. Go guys.

Edited by - Jerry on 06/09/2018 14:03:20
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Toecutter
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Posted - 06/09/2018 :  14:18:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For whatever reason, your routes aren't showing up.

My experience riding in Missouri is that it is great for training. At almost every downhill section, at the end, there's usually a stop sign or traffic light, then you have to climb uphill again. Over and over and over.

200 miles of that in an enclosed velomobile in 90+ degree heat sounds hellish. I didn't think the Rockies with their elevation and reduced oxygen density, would be easier!
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Jerry
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Posted - 06/09/2018 :  18:03:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't know why it doesn't work for you. Take a ride down I-44 west to Washington, MO exit number 251, which is Hwy-100. Go west of Washington and turn left/south on Hwy-185. Ride it to Potosi, MO. Not very many stop signs but hundreds of steep hills! If you can hold over 5 mph up most of them, you should be doing the TABR. I would venture to say on several of those hills the average speed is <4 mph, some <3 mph. Beautiful scenery and tough riding. The St. Louis area has nothing like it.
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Jerry
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Posted - 06/10/2018 :  10:58:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Peter Anderson left a little over 2 hours before Marcel but Marcel has passed him and is ahead by around 28 miles @ 2,008 miles. Dave is in 7th with 1,830 miles. The two velonauts are getting 8-10 hours of rest time a day. The other leaders only 3-6 hours of rest. Yet the velos are putting in huge mileage with way more rest. Win, lose, or draw, Marcel and Dave have excelled. Keep it up guys!
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alevand
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Posted - 06/10/2018 :  11:26:16  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They are going to be facing some hot temps today, cooler tomorrow and Tuesday.


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Edited by - alevand on 06/11/2018 16:36:28
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Toecutter
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Posted - 06/10/2018 :  12:09:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The velos are moving quite quickly. I'm hoping Marcel can get himself a 200 mile lead before the Missouri hills. He's currently got a 30 mile lead.

The velos on flat ground should do well in spite of the heat thanks to the shade provided by the shells and the ventilation. Dave is only 12 miles away from 6th place again.
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alevand
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Posted - 06/10/2018 :  12:17:56  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Fortunately the dew point is low, 50 to 60 so they should be OK.. They could get some sailing with the 20 mph southerly wind.



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Jerry
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Posted - 06/10/2018 :  12:38:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sailing is right Tony. Dave has figured out how to put his hood up like a sail to keep cool. With the south wind it will help a lot. Both these guys have trained and ridden hard in extreme heat before. Win, lose, or draw, they both get kudos from me! Dave said before the race that finishing mid pack was his goal. If nothing happens, he will be top 10.
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Jerry
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Posted - 06/11/2018 :  06:24:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcel is already up and cruising at 27 mph with a 120 mile lead! He will be in MO today.

Dave Lewis is in 4th and is resting now. His legs have been rubbing on the shell since the start of the race.

Two real beasts and the nicest two guys too!
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Jerry
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USA
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Posted - 06/11/2018 :  08:01:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcel will/should reach Golden City, MO tonight. Here is what he has to look forward to from Ash Grove, MO to Chester, IL. http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/2101373146 .
If you have never ridden through here, it is one of the toughest routes around. I did it in 60-70 mile days, not 200+ like the TABR riders. It might be very tough on the velonauts. Unlike the mountains out west, these little hills are very steep and often.

Go Marcel and Dave.

Don't know why MapMyRide is saying Willard instead of Ash Grove!

Edited by - Jerry on 06/11/2018 08:03:01
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alevand
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Posted - 06/11/2018 :  13:51:58  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dave Lewis is in third, 235 miles behind Marcel. Marcel is in the the Flint hills. Looks like Dave is taking a break:



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Edited by - alevand on 06/11/2018 14:10:35
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Jerry
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USA
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Posted - 06/11/2018 :  14:52:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcel stopped at the Newton, KS bike shop and got 3 tubeless tires put on. He lost the retaining clip to his drum brakes and had to stop, take the wheel off and get brake pads unstuck, put wheel back on. The owner of the Newton bike shop went to the hardware store and did some modifications on a retainer clip, now Marcel doesn't have to stop every hour or so and take off a wheel.

Yes, Dave went crazy yesterday and is showing what he can do now.

The way Marcel and Dave are show casing velomobiles, I think there is one in my near future. No, I doubt if I will be as fast and strong, but I could look the part!
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Toecutter
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Posted - 06/11/2018 :  15:42:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You may not be as strong as Dave, but if you're reaching close to 40 mph in your corovelo, I bet you'd reach close to 45 mph in a Milan SL!

I find it amazing how well Marcel is performing in spite of the repeated stops required to keep the brakes from dragging. That's possibly cost him 50 miles or more of lead through the race thus far. With that corrected, it could give him the advantages he needs to finish in first.

Dave has a good chance of catching up to Peter. He's fewer miles behind Peter than Marcel is ahead of Peter. It would be fun to see Dave overtake Marcel to make things very interesting and competitive.
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Jerry
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Posted - 06/11/2018 :  16:27:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marcel only 90 miles from MO. Dave is flying along at 31 mph. I get tired just watching the dots. I can't imagine how hard it is riding the way they are going in this heat. The velo would weigh an extra 100 pounds with me in it, full of ice! Ha ha.
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