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alevand
human power expert

USA
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Posted - 01/03/2016 :  06:13:11  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was thinking yesterday on my ride, how nice a velomoble would be, not have to worry about hitting a patch of ice or snow.

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warren
human power expert

USA
6470 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2016 :  06:45:04  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have exactly the same thoughts this time of year.
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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2016 :  17:36:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It would be great for touring also. Put everything inside out of the elements including myself.
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2016 :  17:51:29  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Decided for a ride, weather was overcast, 27F. I started out but returned home after 4 miles, my face was cold. I made a windshield and duct taped it on. Started out again around 10:30. It worked but the side wind still go my cheek cold. Some traffic on 135th st but once I was in the country I had the road to my self. After 30 miles I didn't want to go back. Called wife to pick me up as I headed south. The thought occurred to me, that I could just keep riding south, forget about work tomorrow. The 700c front wheel rode over the chip seal road just fine. I road 2500E to the bottom of Livingston county before my wife caught up in the van. It was getting dark and we loaded the bike, and it fit without much problem. Rode 98 miles a good test ride, my first winter century. I am confident the bike could be ridden on along trip..but maybe a little warmer like 35F.

https://youtu.be/uujp5D52c24
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Edited by - alevand on 01/03/2016 18:23:03
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Grant-53
recumbent guru

USA
554 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2016 :  14:19:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So far the best gear I have found for winter riding is a Bell full face motorcycle helmet with flip up visor I can adjust with gloves on. Got it at Walmart for under $100 USD.
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2016 :  15:22:46  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ive tried visors for cycling, they frost up and my glassed fog up, so I'm looking through 3 layers of it. Yea maybe if you could flip it up and let the wind blow it out...Ive got some helmets somewhere from many years ago when I use to ride a motorcycle.


I guess the hardest part on a velomobile is the steering and front suspension. Id probably go with 20 inch front and 700c rear, though I liked the 26x3 inch Quest.



This one is cool too...


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Edited by - alevand on 01/04/2016 15:36:12
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warren
human power expert

USA
6470 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2016 :  15:56:59  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A neck gaiter and ski goggles worked great for me on the colder days. The ski goggles also help prevent the fogging issues.
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PUGZCAT
recumbent enthusiast

Canada
466 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2016 :  06:32:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've got a full face Bell helmet for winter riding, adjust the visor to regulate warmth and anti-frost. I scored it at a garage sale for 5 dollars.
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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2016 :  16:10:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tony, you have a great place to ride. My 98+ mile ride south has almost 5,400 feet of climbing. Doesn't sound like a lot, but it is constant rollers of 8%-22% grade. And the road is never straight for more than a 1/2 mile before it curves one way or the other. Fun, but very hard! I guess that is why most CGOAB on tours in Missouri take the Katy Trail. The Trans-Am route is hard, but this is harder.
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2016 :  05:54:46  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Illinois glacial till, its flat as a pancake and straight as an arrow, only 3 cars passed me. According to gps its 4050 feet climbing and 3984 ft decent, but I think it's counting bumps. Should be only 1500 feet climbing. 5 hr 29 min moving time. Starts to get hilly near Effingham (200 miles) and then the Illinois Ozarks (300 miles).

http://ridewithgps.com/trips/7504936

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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2016 :  08:50:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only flat area around here is the top of my head! This link of pictures is a little over a mile in length. there are 4 climbs over 20% http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/ExclusiveSeniorPhotography/library/?sort=3&page=1.
When doing hill repeat intervals, this is one of my favorite places. I have a few others that are tougher though. You don't have to do the same hill, just coast to bottom and there is another one waiting on you. Fun! The pictures do not do justice to the steepness of these little hills.
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2016 :  09:15:42  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I live on the road with the only hills in the area and racers go up and down for practice. It's only about 120 feet elevation gain. Id probably want to avoid your neck of the woods if I ever ride cross country. Id cross MO through Hannibal pick up the Katy Trail at Boonville, then SW to the Trans Am in KS.

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Edited by - alevand on 01/06/2016 09:41:49
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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2016 :  10:42:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could do last years Big Bam ride backwards, Hannibal to Marceline, then down to Booneville. It would be even better to go down to Alton, Il and cross over to MO. Here is how to get from Alton to the Katy. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Katy+Trail,+Missouri/Alton,+IL/@38.7334997,-90.9930496,9z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x87d9333fe3d375e7:0x23c6f8da2d996d92!2m2!1d-90.8385739!2d38.5817881!1m5!1m1!1s0x87df4263d500fbe7:0xedadd230a4c4c104!2m2!1d-90.1842764!2d38.8906038!3e0 . That route would be a lot less hills.
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2016 :  18:27:49  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Another virtual pivot motorcycle from the past, the Mercury:

http://thevintagent.blogspot.com/2012/12/days-of-future-past-mercury.html

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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2016 :  10:16:22  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I went on long ride with the bike loaded and found it has a shimmy when braking and steering. It seemed stable going down a hill at 30 mph with a 15 mph side wind on a gravely road. I am entertaining the idea of a virtual pivot with a 451 wheel, a full nose with suspension.

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Edited by - alevand on 02/02/2016 10:18:29
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2016 :  16:13:30  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Buddfab 50cc record streamliner has virtual pivot front steering.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYINrhTNiyM

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Edited by - alevand on 04/14/2016 16:14:28
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warren
human power expert

USA
6470 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2016 :  18:21:04  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You will be in good company!
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2016 :  05:37:46  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Another Bonneville saltliner with a Duplex front end (197 mph):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OtVLm3D6Is

Tony Levand

Edited by - alevand on 04/15/2016 05:53:29
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2016 :  10:51:24  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I removed the duct tape covering the brake access holes and gained back 1 to 2 mph, 20 to 22 mph.

I am planning on some sort of articulating nose.



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Edited by - alevand on 06/28/2016 10:53:21
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2016 :  17:07:58  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I extended the rear of the skirt down 3 inches, which is now in line with the axle and fairing bottom, though I should have made it a inch longer. I will attach fabric from the fork to the fairing and the skirt will keep the tire from rubbing on fabric during turns. I am going for a 100 mile test ride tomorrow to Starved Rock. I hope to get the cloth attached tonight....

Material developed a run, like nylons. I tried sewing a hem, but too stretchy for my machine. I use an iron on full high to make a crease along the edge. Test ride tomorrow morning.



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Edited by - alevand on 07/03/2016 19:34:07
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2016 :  14:29:58  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Rode 90 miles out to Tonica, IL. There happed to be an invitational ride, it was fun passing everyone at 27 mph. See them in the mirror trying to catch up and getting further and further behind. It is faster with the sock in front, but today was almost calm, maybe a 5 mph wind. Even though at 40 mph I got a few wiggles. I don't think it would do well in a heavy gusting cross wind. But right starting out I was doing 24 without much effort, slight grade and tail wind.

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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2016 :  15:27:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice going Tony!
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warren
human power expert

USA
6470 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2016 :  16:13:10  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And it looks pretty good too. Fair to the eye, fair to the air!

Isn't a 451 wheel with a conventional headset where you started out? Is your conclusion that virtual steer is not worth the hassle, at least for this bike?

Edited by - warren on 07/04/2016 16:17:31
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3541 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2016 :  17:37:43  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The mono tube runs over the BB, so there is no place to attach the lower links. Yes not for this bike, has conventional head tube, but slight negative rake.

Was the saying 12 feet high by 4th of July?



Civil War canons at Tonica


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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2016 :  19:47:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Get some orange Krylon paint and paint the whole shell orange Tony. Everyone tells me they can see my orange shell way before they can see any other bike. It would match your cloth also. Just a suggestion. Looks good the way it is.
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